After years of speculation, the rumored feud between Katy Perry and Taylor Swift—the reason for songs like “Bad Blood” and “Swish Swish”—has been confirmed by one of its participants, and all it took was James Corden and a game of Carpool Karaoke.

In an episode of The Late Late Show that aired Monday night, Corden said to his famous passenger, “There’s no denying it. There’s Taylor beef. And when are we going to clear that beef up?”

Here’s her version of events:

“It’s about backing dancers. It’s so crazy! OK, so there are three backing dancers that went on tour with her tour, right? And they asked me before they went on tour if they could go, and I was like, ‘Yeah of course! I’m not on a record cycle! Get the work! She’s great!…But I will be on a record cycle in about a year, so be sure to put a 30-day contingency in your contract so you can get out if you want to join me when I say I’m going back on.’

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